Monsmedite Mineral Data
General Monsmedite Information
Chemical Formula:
H8K2Tl2(SO4)8•11(H2O)
Composition:
Molecular Weight = 1,461.70 gm
Potassium 5.35 % K 6.44 % K2 O
Thallium 27.97 % Tl 31.25 % Tl2 O3
Hydrogen 2.07 % H 18.49 % H2 O
Sulfur 17.55 % S 43.82 % SO3
Oxygen 47.07 % O
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100.00 % 100.00 % = TOTAL OXIDE
Empirical Formula:
H8 K2 Tl2 (SO4 )8 •11(H2 O)
Environment:
In the oxidation zone of a silver-bearing lead-zinc deposit. Discredited monsmedite=votaite.
IMA Status:
Discredited IMA 2002
Locality:
Baia Sprie, Baia Mare region, Romania. Link to MinDat.org Location Data.
Name Origin:
Named in 1968 from the Latin 'Mons Medius', for Baia Sprie, Romania, the locality for the mineral.
Name Pronunciation:
Monsmedite + Pronunciation
Synonym:
Discredited
IMA1998-D
Monsmedite Crystallography
Cell Dimensions:
a = 25.29, Z = 20; V = 16,175.08 Den(Calc)= 3.00
Crystal System:
Isometric - Hexoctahedral H-M Symbol (4/m 3 2/m) Space Group: F d3c
X Ray Diffraction:
By Intensity(I/Io ): 3.4(1), 1.57(0.4), 2.08(0.4), 2.32(0.4), 3.56(0.4), 2.86(0.4), 3.06(0.1), 5.49(0.1),
Physical Properties of Monsmedite
Cleavage:
{???} Good, {???} Good
Color:
Dark green, Black.
Density:
3
Diaphaneity:
Subopaque
Habit:
Euhedral Crystals - Occurs as well-formed crystals showing good external form.
Hardness:
2 - Gypsum
Luster:
Resinous
Streak:
dark green
Optical Properties of Monsmedite
Gladstone-Dale:
CI meas = -0.19 (Poor) - where the CI = (1-KPDmeas /KC ) CI calc = -0.19 (Poor) - where the CI = (1-KPDcalc /KC )
KPDcalc = 0.2018,KPDmeas = 0.2018,KC = 0.1696 Ncalc = 1.51
Optical Data:
Biaxial (-), a=1.6, g=1.611, bire=0.0110
Calculated Properties of Monsmedite
Electron Density:
Bulk Density (Electron Density)=2.88 gm/cc note: Specific Gravity of Monsmedite =3.00 gm/cc.
Fermion Index:
Fermion Index = 0.0015516873 Boson Index = 0.9984483127
Photoelectric:
PEMonsmedite = 429.96 barns/electronU=PEMonsmedite x r electron =1,238.97 barns/cc.
Radioactivity:
GRapi = 74.14 (Gamma Ray American Petroleum Institute Units)
Concentration of Monsmedite per GRapi unit = 1.35 (%)
Estimated Radioactivity from Monsmedite - barely detectable
Monsmedite Classification
Dana Class:
29.01.03.01 (29) Hydrated Acid and Sulfates
(29.01) (Hydrated, Acid)
(29.01.03) Dana Group
29.01.03.01 Monsmedite ? H8K2Tl2(SO4)8•11(H2O) F d3c 4/m 3 2/m
Strunz Class:
07.CC.25 07 - SULFATES (SELENATES, TELLURATES)
07.C - Sulfates (selenates, etc.) without Additional Anions, with H2O
07.CC -With medium-sized and large cations
07.CC.25 Monsmedite ? H8K2Tl2(SO4)8•11(H2O) F d3c 4/m 3 2/m
07.CC.25 Voltaite K2Fe5Fe3Al(SO4)12•18(H2O) F d3c 4/m 3 2/m
07.CC.25 Zincovoltaite K2Zn5Fe3Al(SO4)12•18(H2O) F d3c 4/m 3 2/m
07.CC.25 Pertlikite ! K2(Fe,Mg)2(Mg,Fe)4Fe2Al(SO4)12•18H2O I 41 /acd 4/m 2/m 2/m
Other Monsmedite Information
References:
NAME( Dana8) PHYS. PROP.(Enc. of Minerals,2nd ed.,1990) OPTIC PROP.(Dana8)
See Also:
Links to other databases for Monsmedite :
1 - Am. Min. Crystal Structure Database
2 - Athena
3 - Ecole des Mines de Paris
4 - GeoScienceWorld
5 - Google Images
6 - Google Scholar
7 - MinDAT
8 - Mineralienatlas (Deutsch)
9 - Online Mineral Museum
10 - QUT Mineral Atlas
11 - Ruff.Info
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H8K2Tl2(SO4)8•11(H2O)
Dana No: 29.01.03.01 Strunz No: 07.CC.25
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